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My name's Kenneth Cruz Chacon.

10s I live in Fresno, California and I'm a Boilermaker Apprentice from FiveForty-Nine.

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How'd you get into the apprenticeship?

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I was a welder beforehand, and so I just Googled up basically local unions, and Boilermakers was one of them.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Mechanics, rigging, welding.

51s Oh, yeah.

53s , you know, is nothing beats everything, you know, beat a cubicle every day.

66s Definitely.

71s Well, just if you like to work with your hands, you know, and come out and put the blood, sweat and tears out here, then, you know, this is for you.

83s Definitely.

86s I'm proud of my work in the refineries.

96s Yeah, it's kind of bleak.

98s You know, up there in Sacramento they want to get rid of everything.

107s Stop trying to take my job.

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Have you heard about the Venetia refinery closing?

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Yeah.

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Do you know anybody that's been laid off up there or getting laid off?

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Actually, I do not.

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What do you think happens to a family when there's a layoff like that?

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I mean they could be displaced.

129s It's expensive up here and refineries are probably the only way that anybody can really afford it if they want to do this type of work, working with their hands.

141s from a job stance point yeah and then I mean I know California is one of the greenest producing you know what would you say fuel here so they're doing everything I think that they can to basically keep it as clean as possible so that cities like Richmond don't suffer so much from you know whatever is out in the air or whatever produced

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There's a lot of talk in Sacramento about importing refined fuel and bringing it in from other countries instead of doing it in California.

186s We got a war in the Middle East now and a lot of instability.

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What do you think about this plan to import fuel?

188s Looks like a lot of money moving through hands.

192s What I would think.

194s If you're trying to put it in, trying to move it through all these different avenues, that's like kind of ways that people kind of pinch pennies, right?

204s Get skimmed some.

208s Oh, definitely.

210s Just because, I mean, we got oil patches here, don't we, down in Bakersfield.

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What do you think happens to a community when refinery goes down?

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Quality of life goes down.

230s You know, that's people that are paying into that community, making that money from that refinery.

237s And now that they got to go somewhere else and put money into another community.

253s What do you like about being a board member?

257s I like the self-abuse that it is, howling all this equipment up.

261s It creates a discipline within my own life that I take and translate to outside of work.

275s We keep your commute affordable.

309s We make it better and cleaner in California.

317s We should make it in California.

322s Made in California by Californians.

329s Keep our jobs in California.

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When a California refinery closes every

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When a California refinery closes, every family pays for it.

347s If more refineries close, we will lose thousands of jobs.

358s How will California make up those job losses?

362s How will California make up those job losses?

368s I power California.

371s I power California.