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6s Yep.

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Can you say your name and where you live in your local?

8s Okay, my name is Blue Ciliaco.

11s I live in Stockton, California.

13s I work for Local Three, District Thirty.

17s What do you do?

19s I'm a foreman for operating engineers, operate heavy machinery, more so on the civil, and a bit of turnaround work.

32s I worked in refinery for about six years now and operating engineers for about twelve.

44s Absolutely.

46s More steady schedule.

51s as to being outside in the field it's uh better planning you know have more time with your family and um pretty much great benefits great company work for have you have you what have you heard about the future of refineries in the

70s I'm not too sure I don't really go into that area, but for the most part it's kept me busy and fed my family, so I think it's pretty good.

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Do you know any workers who have been laid off?

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Like other refineries?

91s Yes and no.

92s I mean, for the most part, anybody I've known, it's all part of the trade.

97s know they're gonna have their uh ups and downs and sometimes it's a great year sometimes it's all right the whole goal of the game is uh stay ahead of it and stay busy do you think we should be making gas in california making gas in california i mean like i said i don't know too much in that area but um definitely yeah i mean we got to get to work we got to go take family on vacation sometimes it requires transportation

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I think it makes it more affordable for the rest of California who make gas in California.

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Who make gas in California?

137s Yes.

138s Not everybody has a diesel.

140s So yeah, why not?

142s Not everybody has an electric car.

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You think these refineries are good for these communities?

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I don't know too much on that.

158s I don't like to speak too much on that.

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what I'll say for what I know is I think it's

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I think it's beneficial for us, more so because the majority of everything runs around these refineries.

218s Regardless, you've got to take the good with the bad.

221s And for the most part, we need it.

225s I don't think generally looking at outsourcing, if they want to help, that's cool, but if we've got it here already, let's utilize what we've got.

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Can you say to me, we should make it here in California?

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We should make it here in California.

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Can you say, we keep your commute affordable?

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We keep your commute affordable?

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You're a superstar, man.

259s You're like a good actor, this guy.

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Sorry, I'm just going for my nose.

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Can you say, I power California?

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I power California.

305s Okay, this is a longer one because you're really good.

312s Just a question towards me.

320s Oh, she said one more time.

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so if sorry you want me to say that all right okay so if more refineries closed we will lose thousands of jobs how would that help out California

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One more.

365s When a California refinery closes, every California family pays for it.

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When a California refinery closes, every California family pays for it.

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Okay.

392s We make it better and cleaner in California.

409s Okay, now I just have a question for you.

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Okay.

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Mm-hmm.

421s Mm-hmm.

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, what I think is if we got everything here, why outsource?

450s If we can utilize what we got and make the best out of it, why not?

454s Let's refine it and make it perfect.

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Perfect.

462s One more.

464s Now I'm going to give you one more.

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California refineries create thousands of jobs across the state.

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California refineries create thousands of jobs across the state.