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1s [SPEAKER_01]
Start easy.

2s Can you say your name, your local, and where you live?

6s [SPEAKER_00]
My name is Estuardo Lopez.

8s I'm with Local Sixteen, and I live in Richmond, California.

11s [SPEAKER_02]
And definitely talk to her.

13s [SPEAKER_00]
All right.

14s Sure, sure.

16s Do it again?

16s Yeah, please.

17s My name is Estuardo Lopez.

18s I'm with Local Sixteen, and I live in Richmond, California.

23s [SPEAKER_02]
What do you do in the restaurant?

25s [SPEAKER_00]
, so I insulate pipes, I insulate tanks, I insulate exchangers, columns, anything that needs some sort of insulation.

40s I've been here for about three years total.

46s I enjoy it, it makes me use my brain, it makes me use my hands, it keeps me on my feet and moving.

57s [SPEAKER_01]
What have you heard about the future of refineries in California?

64s [SPEAKER_00]
Basically the negatives about it, how just the air that gets pumped out amongst other things and that it's, I'm sure the city would be better without it is what they're saying.

79s I mean, I'm sure it's a yes or no question and it's a yes or no decision because at the end of the day, I'm sure whatever is coming out here isn't completely healthy.

88s I'm sure it isn't completely bad for you.

90s But at the end of the day, a lot of the stuff that comes out of here is going into the city.

97s It's helping people power their homes, their cars, anything else.

104s [SPEAKER_01]
Do you know the refinery closures that have happened?

109s [SPEAKER_00]
I personally haven't.

113s You know, if you're working a lot, I'm sure it's nice to be home a little bit.

122s If you're not working at all, it puts more stress on having to get a job, having to pay bills.

136s Um, good jobs in the sense that it helps you work with your hands, it really makes you think about the task in front of you, and it gives you a good work ethic.

149s [SPEAKER_01]
So these refineries create thousands of jobs each refinery, and they put millions of dollars into the local economy.

159s What happens if they close?

161s [SPEAKER_00]
Well, not only are these people losing their jobs, but you don't have money to put into your surrounding cities.

169s So maybe that just is a domino effect into other businesses closing.

182s [SPEAKER_01]
I mean at the end of the day you want jobs in your city and you want things booming in your city so

207s [SPEAKER_00]
.

208s Yeah, it helps the community.

209s It helps you put money in your pocket.

211s It helps you put money in other people's pockets.

213s So it's at the end of the day, yeah, it is good having a major refinery in your city.

222s [SPEAKER_01]
Okay, now I'm going to ask you to say a couple things.

230s [SPEAKER_00]
Sure.

230s We keep your commute affordable.

235s [SPEAKER_01]
We make it better.

238s [SPEAKER_00]
We make it better and cleaner in California.

246s We should make it in California.

252s Keep our jobs in California.

256s [SPEAKER_01]
When a California refinery closes, every family pays for it.

267s If more refineries close If more refineries close If more refineries close

288s [SPEAKER_00]
Damn it.

288s Say it again.

290s This is a long one.

291s [SPEAKER_01]
If more refineries close, we will lose thousands of jobs.

296s How will California make that up?

298s [SPEAKER_00]
If more refineries close, we will lose thousands of jobs.

302s How will California bounce forward?

308s What is it?

310s Pay for it?

313s []
One more time.

315s [SPEAKER_01]
Make up for it.

321s [SPEAKER_00]
If California refineries close, thousands will lose their jobs.

328s How will we make up for it?

333s One more.

334s I power California.

341s [SPEAKER_01]
If more refineries close, we will lose thousands of jobs.

361s [SPEAKER_00]
How will California make up for those losses?

368s [SPEAKER_01]
Oh, my God.